Tuesday, February 18, 2014
Another Pradella West End Development
There appear to be many more Pradella buildings planned for this plot of land in West End.
Thursday, February 7, 2013
River Point on Ferry and Flow
Nearby, Pradella is marketing apartments in Waters Edge, which has been completed but still has unsold developer stock. Apt 1606, 2 bedrooms, is listed at $619,000. Apt 2209, 2 bedrooms, is listed at $699,000. Apt 1111, 3 bedrooms, is $929,000. A neighbouring development by Pradella, Flow, also has developer stock for sale.
Monday, August 1, 2011
Waters Edge
1, 2 and 3 bedroom apartments now selling:
- 1 bed from $499,000
- 2 bed from $549,000
- 3 bed from $899,000

- Two bedroom, 4th floor, river views, 144 sqm - $995,000
- Two bedroom, lower floor, $995,000 (they are dreaming!)
- Two bedroom, rear of building, no views - $615,000 (seems too high to me)
- Two bedroom, on side of building, weird design $675,000
- Three bedroom, ground floor, 190 sqm - $1,000,000
- Apt 81 (2 bedrooms, with river views) for $1,030,000 (which was slightly more than the off-the-plan price for this apartment).
- Apt 15 (2 bedrooms at rear) $540,000 (capital loss of $25,000 from off-the-plan sales price)
- Apt 48 for $590,000
- Apt 73 for $439,000 (capital loss of $50,000)
- Apt 65 (2 bedrooms) for $525,000 (capital loss of $115,000)
- Apt 62 (3 bedrooms) for $1,150,000
Friday, April 22, 2011
Good Size Two Bedroom Apartments in Brisbane
- Flow West End, 144 sqm
- Admiralty Towers, 129 sqm
- Quay West Brisbane, 128 sqm
- Waters Edge West End, a number of designs over 120 sqm
- Saville South Bank, 120 sqm
- Metro 21, 119 sqm
- Admiralty Two, 116 sqm
- Ciana Indooroopilly, 113 sqm to 132 sqm
Sunday, January 16, 2011
HiDef Aerial Photos of Brisbane 2011 Floods
Friday, January 14, 2011
Brisbane Floods
- Admiralty Towers
- Admiralty Two
- Admiralty Quays "we only had minor flooding in the lower level of the basement (about 50cm deep)"
- Riverplace
- Riparian (access tunnel to carparks - carparks are above ground level)
- Felix
- 212 Margaret
- Festival Towers
- River City
- Vue at Milton
- Water's Edge
- Flow
- SL8
- Parklands Sherwood
- Fresh Toowong
- Encore Toowong
- Arbour on Grey at South Bank
- Tennyson Reach
- Most apartments on the river at St Lucia
- the list goes on
Thursday, December 2, 2010
Top End Heading Towards The Bottom
Here is evidence that, despite what real estate agents and developers tell you, the top end apartment market is not going great. Many people have overpaid in the past 4 years.
Apt 80 in Flow, at West End, now listed for $1,850,000. This is a massive 4 bedroom, 3.5 bathrooms, 4 car, riverview penthouse apartment. It is 272 sqm internal, and 370 sqm total floor space. It has been for sale for a while. It went to auction in March 2009 and did not sell. (It was purchased off-the-plan in 2006 for over $2.3M. I think a real estate agent's investment company purchased it, but am not sure. So with stamp duty and interest, a loss over well over half a million bucks!)
By comparison, Apt 23, on a lower floor (3rd floor -- partial river views) - 3 bedrooms, was listed for sale by the developer for $1.4M in November 2007.
Or the same developer, Pradella, was selling apartments off-the-plan in Waters Edge next door in May 2008 which are not as good for $1.9M to $2.2M (these are A1 and A2 apartments, 159 sqm, 3 bedrooms).
So you can see that prices being paid for expensive apartments have not held up. (Flow and Waters Edge and Riverpoint are not the greatest locations, looking west, in a semi-industrial area a long walk from any facilities. Infrastructure touted by developers 4 years ago has not arrived.)
If Flow has been a bad investment for some, what about a $4.5M capital loss. See this story.
Sunday, March 21, 2010
Promised Infrastructure
Saturday, February 27, 2010
How can you tell if an apartment has quality finishes
Thursday, March 19, 2009
Recent Apartment Sales in Brisbane City
Aurora - Apartment 439 - Level 43 - Two bedrooms - $460,000
Club Lodge - Apartment 51 - Two beds, two cars - $440,000
Vue - Apartment 2409 - Two beds - $445,000
River City - Apartment 3802 - Two beds - $403,220
Flow West End - Apartment 80 - Four beds - failed to sell at auction
Sunday, December 28, 2008
Predictions for 2009
At the beginning of 2008, I made a number of predictions in this post.
The predictions were mostly wrong!
The Brisbane apartment market did not grow significantly in 2008, and took a minor step backwards. At present, there are fewer buyers and more sellers. For some off-the-plan developments, no sales have been made for months. Second tier buildings and buildings with more than 200 apartments have not done well.
So I will be careful with my predictions for 2009:
I still believe that quality inner city apartments in Brisbane will do well in 2009. Provided there is no significant unemployment and provided that foreign students continue to come to Brisbane, vacancy rates will remain low.
In 2008, only four new inner city apartment buildings completed and settled. These were Evolution (over priced), M on Mary (which has mostly 1 bedroom apartments, and the developer is now in liquidation), Flow at West End and Iceworks at Paddington. In 2009, no new large inner city apartments will settle. Groundwork has started on Mertion's Soleil and the Trilogy Tower project, but these will no complete until 2012. Mirvac's Tennyson Reach project will settle two buildings in 2009, and FKP's SL8 at West End will also probably complete in 2009. So not much new stock.
So here are some predictions for 2009:
• The price of a good quality 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment in Brisbane, with views, will range from $780,000 to $850,000.
• The price of an average quality 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment in Brisbane will struggle to pass $550,000.
• Average rent for an unfurnished 2 bedroom apartment will rise to $600 per week.
• Investors will return to the market, as interest rates are falling and rents are rising.
• There will be more action in the inner suburbs than in the city. Prices for quality apartments in areas such as Indooroopilly and Toowong (where there is a train station and regional shopping, close to education facilities) will boom. By the end on 2008, it will be hard to find a good quality 2 bedroom apartment in these areas for less than $600,000.
• The Gold Coast apartment market will tank even more. The Sunshine Coast apartment market will remain steady.
Wednesday, October 15, 2008
West End Unit Owners are Concerned
"WEST END: Riverside apartment dwellers are banding together in a bid to give their direction on the future shape of the community. More than 30 residents from the Flow, Koko, Leftbank and Tempo complexes have met to discuss the need to build a sense of community in the area. Regatta Apartments body corporate chairman Paul Rees said they hoped to build a liveable community, not only for apartment dwellers but the whole of West End.
“We’re planning a series of regular events to build community in our area and the first event will be a breakfast in Riverside Park on Sunday, December 7 at 9am,” Mr Rees said.
He said they invited local, state and federal representatives as well as community groups and property developers to attend the breakfast to hear their ideas. Among residents’ concerns are building heights, closing Riverside Drive to public traffic and fast-tracking plans for a CityCat terminal. And Mr Rees said residents felt they were not consulted about increasing building heights.
“We are appalled at the suggestions of 15, 20 and 30-storey highrises being built here,” he said.
“We moved into this area believing the height limit would be seven storeys and we don’t want to see our area turned into a concrete jungle,” Mr Rees said.
He said a CityCat terminal and a reliable bus service on Montague Rd were important to give residents adequate public transport. Mr Rees said they supported redevelopment of the old riverside industrial areas as long as it was on a “human scale” and integrated with the established community of West End, “rather than creating a concrete barrier between West End and the river”."
See City South NewsSaturday, October 11, 2008
Future Brisbane Apartment Developments
There is likely to be a shortage of apartments in Brisbane in the near future. (This statement assumes that that is not massive unemployment in Brisbane.) There are few developments under construction, and so very little new stock will come onto the market in the next three years. What new stock remains unsold is either overpriced or poor quality.
Downtown Apartments
- M on Mary - completed - mostly poor quality 1 bedroom apartments, mostly unsold. Developer has ceased sales campaign and is running this building as short term accommodation
- Evolution - completed - about 20 apartments unsold - small and overpriced
- Skyline - completed - about 20 apartments unsold - building surrounded by other buildings, and generally overpriced
- Aurora - completed
- Empire Square - cancelled
- Trilogy Tower - status uncertain - in presales, with planned completion in 2012 - both hotel rooms and expensive apartments
- Vision - status uncertain - in presales, with completion not before 2012
- Soleil Tower - soon to start presales - 403 apartments, with completion about 2011
- French Quarter - early days, no planning approval
- Flow (West End) - completed - about 5 remain unsold, will negotiate on price to sell
- Koko (West End) - completed - about 5 remain unsold, will negotiate on price to sell
- Tempo (West End) - completed - about 5 remain unsold, will negotiate on price to sell
- IceWorks (Paddington) - almost complete - about 6 apartments remain unsold
- SL8 (West End) - under construction, with completion expected in April 2009, poor location
- Waters Edge (West End) - off-the-plan selling, overpriced and selling poorly, completion in 2010
- Ciana (Indooroopilly) - almost complete - about 25 out of 130 apartments remain unsold - good value
- Tennyson Reach - 2 buildings nearing completion, 1 building not far behind, 3 more buildings planned
- Newstead Waterfront - 2 buildings selling well off-the-plan
- The Mill at Albion - almost sold out, relatively expensive
- El Dorado Village - to be launched to the marketing in October 2008, completion likely in 2011
- Milton Union - received planning approval
Saturday, May 10, 2008
Will Flow be Impacted by Waters Edge?
Saturday, November 10, 2007
Flow West End
There is always a risk buying off the plan. Typically, that risk is off-set by getting a lower price -- i.e., buying at today's prices, but not having to pay until tomorrow.
That does not always hold true, if the initial pricing is too high. One example of an overpriced off the plan development was FKP's Vue, where a number of people appear to have sold recently for less than they paid off the plan.
Pradella is pricing its off-the-plan developments aggressively. One example is Flow at West End. Flow has been marketed off the plan for a number of years. Today's prices are about the same as one of the original price lists published over a year ago. A price list from 2006 is here. Settlement is in 4 weeks. There are some really nice apartments in Flow, and they are larger than normal. The better views are to the west, however.
This is one development where it looks like waiting until settlement (unless you got an insiders price or discount) would have been best in relation to price. However, most of the good apartments have sold, so waiting is not necessarily the best thing to do if that is where you would like to live!
Some Flow apartments listed for sale today (developer stock):
- Apt 31, 3 bed, 4th floor, river views $1,425,000 (price was $1,375,000)
- Apt 23, 3 bed, 3rd floor $1,405,000 (price was $1,380,000)
- Apt 57, 2 bed, 2rd floor $970,000 (price was $970,000)
- Apt 13, 2 bed, 1st floor $890,000 (price was $840,000)
- Apt 51, 2 bed, 1st floor $890,000 (price was $930,000)
- Apt 52, 3 bed, 1st floor $1,275,000 (price was $1,250,000)
- Apt 14, 2 bed, 1st floor, $695,000 (price was $685,000)
Saturday, September 22, 2007
Pradella's New West End Development
It does not have a name, but it does have a website.
Pradella will have developed three West End riverside complexes:
- Flow (to be completed in 2007) which looked extremely overpriced, but now just looks expensive; some apartments will be excellent (riverside on high floor) and some are not great
- New and unnamed
- LeftBank which is still looking very good
And there is Riverpoint, currently selling off-the-plan, which looks very mixed.
I suspect there will be more to come.